Episode 125—Brin-Jonathan Butler Talks “The Grandmaster,” Obsession, Madness, and the Power of Being an Outsider

Brin-Jonathan Butler, Brendan O'Meara
Brin-Jonathan Butler sporting Cuban refugee Yasiel Puig’s No. 66.

By Brendan O’Meara

Brin-Jonathan Butler has the world record for appearances on The Creative Nonfiction Podcast at four times. In honor of that, here’s a riff in 4/4 time.

You an check out his past few trips when he talked about what his ego is tied to, all things Cuba, and the blessings of struggle.

His new book The Grandmaster: Magnus Carlsen and the Match that Made Chess Great Again is a masterpiece.

You might also like The Domino Diaries. I know I did.

Okay, so I gotta be honest with you. You would think that after 125 of these that I’d be armed to the gills to make good work, good written work. But what happens, at least in my own brain, is that immersing myself with all these amazing artists is that it’s stifling because they’re so good I feel I can’t hang. Like by their very talent which they have cultivated over years, decades even, it squashes my drive. I’m like, Why even contribute anything or make anything when they’re doing it so well? It’s stupid, I know that on a very visceral level, but I can’t argue with a gut feeling that when I read Brin’s work, I’m just like, well, Brendan, go take a shower, turn in your key fob and good luck in your next life. Here’s a $5 gift card to Starbucks.

I suspect that comedians feel the same way all the time. I bet some look at Iliza Slesinger or Chris Rock and say, I can’t do that, so why try? When I frame it like that it sounds patently foolish, right? Of course you need to keep trying. The world needs you. It needs your voice, so keep going.

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