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Episode 409: Chain Smoking Book Projects with Earl Swift

Earl Swift is our guest for Ep. 409. He is the author of more books than you have fingers including The Big Roads, Chesapeake Requiem, Across the Airless Wilds, and his most recent book Hell Put to Shame: The 1921 Murder Farm Massacre and the Horror of America’s Second Slavery. It’s published by Mariner Books.

Just when you think this country couldn’t find a way to let you down, well, just give it some time. In the spirt of David Grann’s Killers of the Flower Moon, Earl found a troubling story in its wicked cruelty, of a farmer, John S. Williams, who murdered 11 Black laborers rather than face charges for peonage. Earl expands on what this is in the book and in this conversation.

It got me thinking about the hidden histories of this country, atrocities and tragedies buried by the past. And it’s the serendipity of finding reference to these stories — research by catch — that people Earl can then expand and illuminate. Man, what a book.

Episode 407: Alex Squadron Respects the Grind

By Brendan O’Meara

Ever want to know the ins and outs, the hopes and dreams, of a minor league basketball player? Alex Squadron (@asquad510), a sports writer for Slam Magazine, brings that insight to his debut book Life in the G: Minor League Basketball and the Relentless Pursuit of the NBA. It’s published by University of Nebraska Press.

Alex follows a cohort of players for the Birmingham Squadron … total coincidence. He had tremendous access to this team and these players, something you categorically never see at the higher levels of sport.

Episode 405: Hallie Lieberman and the Drawer of Dead Pitches

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Hallie Lieberman (@hallielieberman) has now written for The Atavist Magazine twice, her latest chronicling the crimes of “The Handcuff Man” in her “The Devil Went Down to Georgia.”

Hallie writes a lot about the sex industry and LBGTQ+ issues. She’s also the author of Buzz: A Stimulating History of the Sex Toy.

This conversation was a trip. Hallie is a force of nature, candid, and joy to speak with and, I hope, a joy for you to listen to.

In this episode we talk about the draw of dead pitches, rejection, perseverance, and how to find wills.

Episode 404: Hanif Abdurraqib’s Nod to Witnessing in ‘There’s Always This Year’

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By Brendan O’Meara

Kinda crazy, right? That someone like Hanif Abdurraqib (@nifmuhammad) would agree to be on this little podcast, which just turned eleven on March 20.

Hanif needs next-to-no introduction, but here’s a little bit about him. His book A Little Devil in America: Notes in Praise of Black Performance was a finalist for the National Book Award. He’s the author of the essay collection They Can’t Kill Us Until They Kill Us and the poetry collections A Fortune for Your Disaster and The Crown Ain’t Worth Much. His latest book is There’s Always This Year: On Basketball and Ascension (Random House).

It’s a masterpiece; Hanif is a masterpiece.

In this conversation, we talk about productivity, envy, specificity, intentionality, and a nod to witnessing. It’s great stuff, great talk.

Episode 403: Elizabeth Rush Moves Toward Exactitude

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By Brendan O’Meara

Elizabeth Rush returns, friend. This is her third trip to the show, this time to celebrate The Quickening: Creation and Community at the Ends of the Earth (Milkweed).

Liz also is the author of the Pulitzer Prize finalist Rising: Dispatches from the New American Shore (Milkweed). Both are wonderful books.

The Quickening deals with climate change and motherhood and shines light on the lesser celebrated laborers that make treks to the Antarctic possible. Oh, yes, she was the writer in residence aboard a giant boat that went to the Thwaites Glacier.

Episode 402: The Stentorian-Voiced Dudely Bro-ness of Rob Harvilla

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Rob Harvilla (@robharvilla) returns to talk about the end of his world famous podcast 60 Songs that Explain the 90s and the book based on the same name.

In this conversation we talk about several of his episodes that made an impression on me, namely the “Sabotage,” “It’s Good to be King,” “Smells Like Teen Spirit,” and “Enter Sandman.” We talk about a lot of things that his podcast has meant to him since he conceived of it in 2020, that year we still haven’t seemed to leave yet.

Episode 401: Jessica Camille Aguirre on Racking Up Rejections, Online Nothing Burgers, and The Atavist’s “Watch It Burn”

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Jessica Camille Aguirre (@jessicacaquirre) is a freelance journalist based out of Berlin, Germany, and she’s got a ripping piece for this month’s Atavist, “Watch It Burn.” Two scammers, a web of betrayal, and Europe’s fraud of the century.

It deals with carbon credits and the scammers were quick to pounce on this upstart industry.

Episode 400: Richard Blanco on Fever Writing and Finding the Poem within the Poem

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For Episode 400, we wanted to go big, presidential-inaugural-poet big. Richard Blanco, @poetrichardblanco on IG, author of the collection Homeland of My Body (Beacon Press), graced out airwaves for a milestone episode.

Great talk about the messiness of writing a book, showing early drafts to students to let them see what a bloody mess the process is, and Richard reads two poems from HOMB.

The list of Richard’s accolades are bonkers-crazy. In 2023, he was won the National Humanities Award and he was named the first ever poet laureate in Miami-Dade County. He’s the author of two memoirs, The Prince of Los Cocuyos and For All of Us, One Today: An Inaugural Poet’s Journey.

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Episode 399: William Ralston Recounts a Harrowing Rescue for The Atavist

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William Ralston is a freelancer journalist and he comes on the show to talk about “Mayday,” his long feature about a harrowing rescue of four children after a deadly plane crash for The Atavist.

Right from the start, William grabs the reader and doesn’t let you go, man. Maybe you’ll consider subscribing to The Atavist Magazine. I don’t get any kickbacks, so I do it out of the goodness of Grinch-sized heart (before he serves up the roast beast).

William’s work has appeared all over the place. He’s a dogged reporter, so we get into that quite a bit.

This conversation gets into trust, as well as learning how to write before you’re ready. Jonah Ogles also stops by to give some of those valuable insights into the editor side of the table.

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Now in Paperback: Leslie Jamison — Make It Scream, Make It Burn, and the Bounded Infinity of Nonfiction

The writer Leslie Jamison (USA), August 15, 2017, New York, New York. Photograph by Beowulf Sheehan mail@beowulfsheehan.com

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This originally aired on September 27, 2019 as Episode 170.

“Essays took on this energy for me in part because they’re unofficial and in part because they brought me in contact with the world that felt really generative.” — Leslie Jamison (@lsjamison on Twitter)

New “now in paperback,” this with Leslie Jamison. Turns out she has a new memoir out called Splinters: Another Kind of Love Story, and, yes, we’ll hustle to have her back on the show for it.

Always nice when you can have straight-up badasses like Leslie Jamison on the show. I’ve spoken with some great essayists on the podcast, like Elena Passarello, Elizabeth Rush, Natalie Singer, among others.

In this episode we riff on how she had to let language to the work for her and not let the language be this shiny veneer without substance, the bounded infinity of nonfiction, and much, much more.

Her new book is Make It Scream, Make It Burn (Little, Brown, 2019) and it’s a joy to read. Leslie is also the bestselling author of The Empathy Exams, The Recovering and the novel The Gin Closet.