Episode 157: Eric Ducker—’I Want This Weirder’

Eric Ducker

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“I want to hear more of you in this. I want this weirder. Let loose.” —Eric Ducker (@ericducker)

By Brendan O’Meara

Hey, CNFers! So Eric Ducker is here. He’s a freelance editor and writer. When he wrote this great piece on Jenny Odell, I reached out to him.

We talk about how important music is to him and the shape of his weeks when he’s pitching vs. when he’s writing. Be sure to check out his work at his Contently site.

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Episode 151: Jenny Odell—How to Do Nothing

Jenny Odell, bird noticer, artists, author of How to Do Nothing

By Brendan O’Meara

“Find the something else that is so absorbing to you. That is a place you can go to get away from this.” —Jenny Odell

“You can’t write for everyone. And if you did, it wouldn’t be good.” —Jenny Odell

“Sitting there is a reminder of how different a physical space is with how we consume information online.” —Jenny Odell

Welcome, friend, to CNF, the creative nonfiction podcast where I speak to badass writers, filmmakers, radio producers, and podcasters about the art and craft of telling true stories.

Today’s guest is a special one in Jenny Odell (@the_jennitaur). She’s the author of How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy. It’s an excellent read and, dare I say, an important read for these digital times we live in.

The book stemmed from this talk she gave, which makes me think: maybe the way to a book deal is come up with a great talk? Side note: It’s amazing how Jenny stood in the same spot for this entire talk. I’m definitely a walker.

Anyway…

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So Jenny was amazing. We talk about birds, Austin Kleon, and how best reclaim your attention from social media companies that are hell bend on ensuring you keep scrolling.

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