Episode 154: Julian Smith—Pitch Clubs, Falling in Love with the Work, and Aloha Rodeo

By Brendan O’Meara

“The more you can immerse yourself in a story the better you can write about it.” —Julian Smith (@julianwrites)

“You gotta fall in love with your subject and sometimes people have to pull you out.” —Julian Smith (juliansmith.com)

Julian Smith is a freelance journalist covering science, conservation, and adventure for publications like Smithsonian, Wired, Outside, Men’s Journal, National Geographic Traveler, and The Washington Post.

He co-authored Aloha Rodeo with David Wolman, a fellow journalist he worked with before on this Epic Magazine piece about two warring ice cream trucks. It’s…epic.

Julian is also the author of Crossing the Heart of Africa and Smokejumper.

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Episode 153: Amanda Petrusich—Clinging to Tiny Victories, Letting the Process Sustain You, and Wet Jeans

Amanda Petrusich is on the main stage for Episode 153.

By Brendan O’Meara

“The work itself, the process has to sustain you.” —Amanda Petrusich (@amandapetrusich Twitter)

“It’s like wet jeans, that’s the feeling of generating a bunch of crappy writing.”—Amanda Petrusich (@amandapetrusich IG)

Amanda Petrusich, staff writer for The New Yorker, joined me for a spirited conversation about her approach to writing criticism and the grind she endured to get where she’s at.

It was this great piece she wrote on Metallica that made me want to reach out to her. The way to this man’s heart is through Metallica.

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Books by Amanda

Don’t Sell at Any Price
It Still Moves
Pink Moon

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Episode 152: Philip Gerard—Fiction, Nonfiction, and the Writer’s Magical Combination

Philip Gerard returns to the show to talk about his latest book The Last Battleground.
Photo credit Alan Cradick

“For a writer, ignorance and curiosity are a magical combination.” —Philip Gerard

“I always tell my students if you can’t find it, you don’t have it.” —Philip Gerard

By Brendan O’Meara

Hey, CNFers, I’m thrilled to welcome back Philip Gerard. Philip joined me nearly 120 episodes ago and it’s great to have him back to talk about his latest book The Last Battleground: The Civil War Comes to North Carolina (University of North Carolina Press, 2019).

His historical novel, Cape Fear Rising, is celebrating its 25th anniversary, so we dive into that as well. It is published by Blair.

Philip is also an accomplished musician and recorded this song and video as a trailer for The Last Battleground. Check it out:

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You can join me on Twitter @BrendanOMeara and @CNFPod, Instagram @cnfpod, and Facebook @CNFPodcast. If you tag me or the show I’ll be able to give you digital fist bumps.

Books by Philip Gerard

Too many to list! So visit this link to browse.

Episode 151: Jenny Odell—How to Do Nothing

Jenny Odell, bird noticer, artists, author of How to Do Nothing

By Brendan O’Meara

“Find the something else that is so absorbing to you. That is a place you can go to get away from this.” —Jenny Odell

“You can’t write for everyone. And if you did, it wouldn’t be good.” —Jenny Odell

“Sitting there is a reminder of how different a physical space is with how we consume information online.” —Jenny Odell

Welcome, friend, to CNF, the creative nonfiction podcast where I speak to badass writers, filmmakers, radio producers, and podcasters about the art and craft of telling true stories.

Today’s guest is a special one in Jenny Odell (@the_jennitaur). She’s the author of How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy. It’s an excellent read and, dare I say, an important read for these digital times we live in.

The book stemmed from this talk she gave, which makes me think: maybe the way to a book deal is come up with a great talk? Side note: It’s amazing how Jenny stood in the same spot for this entire talk. I’m definitely a walker.

Anyway…

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So Jenny was amazing. We talk about birds, Austin Kleon, and how best reclaim your attention from social media companies that are hell bend on ensuring you keep scrolling.

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Episode 150: Ian Frisch—A Good Idea Knows No Age

Ian Frisch, author of Magic is Dead, hopped on the show.

By Brendan O’Meara

Quotables by Ian Frisch (@IanFrisch and @Ian_Frisch)

“That’s what makes a great story is having character, and setting, and narrative moments and dynamic change.”

“I’m not really just there for the information. I want to be able to understand a character and their motivations and their experience on a deeper level.”

“A good idea knows no experiences level or age.”

Well, here are CNFers, this is CNF, the creative nonfiction podcast where I speak to badass artists about the craft of telling true stories.

Ian Frisch, a master a freelancer and author of Magic is Dead, joins me this glorious CNFriday.

There’s so much great freelancer wisdom in this episode. I know your’e gonna dig it.

Ian mentions how great Patrick Radden Keefe’s Say Nothing and David Grann’s The White Darkness are. Not to mention Bill Buford’s great New Yorker piece on chocolate.

Ian is a prolific writer and his work can be seen here, so I hope you’ll check out his work. It’s an impressive collection.

Be sure to keep the conversation going on Twitter @BrendanOMeara and @CNFPod. You can always follow along on Instagram @cnfpod and on Facebook on the podcast’s page.

Enjoy the show!

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