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Episode 120—Eli Saslow, the Pulitzer Prize Winner on Empathy, Muscling Through Drafts, and His Book ‘Rising Out of Hatred’

Eli Saslow, Pulitzer Prize winner, stopped by the show.

By Brendan O’Meara

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Welcome to The Creative Nonfiction Podcast, the show where I speak to the best artists about the art and craft of telling true stories. Leaders from narrative journalism, doc film, memoir, essay, radio, and podcasting stop by to share their stories and how they go about the work so you can apply those tools of mastery to your own work.

Would you look at this guest for Episode 120L: Eli Saslow (@elisaslow), Pultizer Prize winner and fellow Oregonian, and author of Rising Out of Hatred: The Awakening of a Former White Nationalist, and staff writer for The Washington Post joined me for a wonderful conversation about his work.

Eli is one of the good ones. You can tell by talking to him that he’s an energy giver, you know what I mean? You talk to the guy and you want to go out and do your best work. I felt similarly when I spoke with Elizabeth Rush and Andre Dubus III.

Fact is, Eli’s work alone makes you want to go out and do good work because it’s top notch and major league. His latest book is a masterpiece so you need to go out and buy a copy for you and a pal. It is published by Doubleday.

You’re gonna learn a lot of great writing and reporting tips from your time spent listening to this episode.

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Thanks to the show’s sponsors: Goucher College’s MFA for Nonfiction and for Creative Nonfiction Magazine.

Books by Eli Saslow

Ten Letters: Stories Americans Tell Their President

Episode 119—The Multi-Hyphenated Allison K. Williams

Allison K. Williams embodies the spirit of a true creative.

By Brendan O’Meara

“Fame does not equal success, and success does not equal fame.” —Allison K. Williams

“Every project I do has made me more fit and better to do my next project.” —Allison K. Williams

It’s The Creative Nonfiction Podcast, the show where I speak to the very best in the genre of telling true stories, how they got to where they are and the tools, tips, and tricks that make them so good at what they do. I’m your host Brendan O’Meara.

Today’s guest is none other than Allison K. Williams. She’s @GuerillaMemoir on Twitter and you can visit her website at idowords.com.

Episode 118—Earl Swift on Routines, Proportionality, and the Secret to Being a Fly on the Wall

Earl Swift, everybody! Photo credit goes to Hyunsoo Leo Kim/The Virginian-Pilot.

By Brendan O’Meara

“It’s always been experience that the inspiration comes while you’re doing [the writing].” —Earl Swift

“The process of being a fly on the wall doesn’t rely on folks forgetting you’re a reporter.” —Earl Swift

Hey, CNFers, welcome back to another show.

This week’s guest is Earl Swift, author of seven books, with his latest being Chesapeake Requiem: A Year with the Waterman of Vanishing Tangier Island.

But before we get to that, maybe I should let you know what it is we do here at CNF HQ. This is the podcast where I speak to the best artists about the craft of telling true stories: origins, habits, routines, key influences, so you can apply those tools of mastery to your own work.

Episode 117—Steve Brusatte and The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs

Steve Brusatte, author of “The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs.”

By Brendan O’Meara

It’s The Creative Nonfiction Podcast, the show where I speak to the best about telling true stories. Leaders in narrative journalism, doc film, radio, podcasting, essay, and memoir stop by Digital CNFPod HQ to talk about how they go about the work so you can apply those tools of mastery—if you so choose—to your own work.

Today I present to you Steve Brusatte (@SteveBrusatte on Twitter), author of The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs: A New History of the Lost World. The entirety of the book is brilliant but the way Steve talks about T-rexes and the Asteroid are some of the most compelling reading you’ll come across.

Episode 114—Matthew Polly on Bruce Lee, Shaolin Temples, and Video Games

Portrait of Matthew Polly, writer and author of “Bruce Lee: A Life” ©JUSTIN GUARIGLIA, WWW.EIGHTFISH.COM

By Brendan O’Meara

“The great thing is if you find the right story it often is more interesting than fiction because it’s weird and quirky.” —Matthew Polly (@MatthewEPolly)

This is The Creative Nonfiction Podcast, the show where I speak to the best in narrative journalism, doc film, radio, podcasting, essay, and memoir about the art and craft of telling true stories.

Today’s guest is Matthew Polly. He’s the author of three books of nonfiction, most recently Bruce Lee: A Life. He’s a graduate of Princeton and a Rhodes Scholar, so you can say my 1050 SAT score didn’t exactly level me up any in this conversation.

Episode 113—Jennifer Goforth Gregory: Your Ticket to Earning Six Figures

Jennifer Gregory might just change your life.

By Brendan O’Meara

Tweetables from Jennifer Goforth Gregory (@ByJenGregory)

“The persistence is the difference.”

“If you don’t follow up, you’re leaving money on the table.”

“We’re not each other’s competition; we’re each other’s colleagues.”

Well, well, well, look what your subscription dragged in. Another episode of The Creative Nonfiction Podcast, the show where I speak to the best in narrative journalism, doc film, radio, essay, and memoir about the art and craft of telling true stories so you can better at your own work.

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Episode 112—Paul Willetts Slays ‘King Con’

By Brendan O’Meara

Tweetable by Paul Willetts:

“Revision as you go along can be tremendously destructive of what you’re doing.”

I’ve had quite a run of late of guests from the other side of the pond as it were. Today is no different as I welcome Paul Willetts to the show.

Paul is very smart and he loves the work. He is the author of several books of nonfiction, most recently King Con: the Bizarre Adventures of the Jazz Age’s Greatest Imposter.

Episode 110—Scott Neumyer on Podcasting, Writing, and Anxiety

Scott Neumyer is a writer and hosts the wildly popular Anxiety Diaries Podcast.

By Brendan O’Meara

Tweetables from Scott Neumyer (@scottneumyer):

“The more you do, the more apt you are to get an assignment.”

“I want to make something happen and I just work really hard to do it.”

Today’s guest has a voice as smooth as velvet. It’s a voice you want to listen to over and over again and you know what? You can!

Today I welcome Scott Neumyer to the show. Scott is a writer who has been published by The New York Times, Rolling Stone, Wall Street Journal, Sports Illustrated, ESPN, GQ, Esquire, Wired, Men’s Fitness, and many more publications. He is a contributor to the anthology Life Inside My Mind: 31 Authors Share Their Personal Struggles, which Simon Pulse published in 2018. He is also the creator and host of the popular Anxiety Diaries Podcast. He lives in central New Jersey with his wife, two daughters, and two cats.

This is the show where I speak to the best creators about telling true stories, how they’re told, and why it matters so you can apply those tools of mastery to your own work.

Scott has been working hard on his new podcast, Anxiety Diaries, and it’s raw, it’s honest, and it showcases interesting people across the mental health-sphere.

In this episode we dig into his origin as a writer, influential writers, lots about the craft of interviewing, and how to launch a successful podcast.

If you dig the show, please subscribe and leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Joe Rogan (love you Joe!) doesn’t need anymore. I need them. Me. Okay, CNFers, thanks for listening, let’s get right into it.

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Stories by Scott

I Am Royce White
Anxiety Makes the Holidays Harder

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Episode 109—Jean Guerrero Tries to Solve the Mystery of Her Father

Jean Guerrero, an award-winning journalist, came by to talk about her memoir Crux. Photo credit Stacey Keck

By Brendan O’Meara

“I could leave my father as a mystery because he was the mystery I was trying to solve,” says Jean Guerrero, @jeanguerre on Twitter.

I’ve often wonder how to not just make the podcast better but different. What would that entail?

Could writing an extensive blog post about the guest instead of just show notes be seen as different yet adding value? I’m not sure.

Episode 108—Katie Baker on Working Outside of Journalism and Cultivating Enthusiasms

Katie Baker is a staff writer for The Ringer and damn good writer.

By Brendan O’Meara

“Working outside of journalism before working in journalism can be a useful thing in terms of seeing how the world works.” —Katie Baker (@katiebakes)

Hey there, CNFers, it’s The Creative Nonfiction Podcast, the show where I speak to the best artists about telling true stories, whether that’s narrative journalists, documentary filmmakers, essay and memoir writers and radio producers, I try unpack their lives and their work so you can apply those tools of mastery to your own work.

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